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I have a 68 w/ the VIN of 8R93S502362
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S Code = 390 GT right? So 93S means XR7GT, right?
wrong, it has the 390 GT Engine only.
I have the 6.5 L emblems which mean it is NOT a GT but a 68 6.5 XR7 even though it has the 390 4V Disc brakes 9 in and so forth.
Looks like the original owner bought a very well optioned XR7 w/ the 325 Horse 390 but they didn't get the GT Package which would have given them a bigger sway bar, stiffer springs and the GT emblems. Who knew.
It turns out they made less 6.5 XR7's (1463) than XR7GT's (1845)
And considering some of the 6.5's were 2V even less 4V 6.5 XR7's.
Hmmm
And I always thought the S code was GT.

From CCOA Cougars 101
1967 & 1968 6.5 Litre

The 1967 and 1968 Cougar 6.5 Litre started as either a base model or XR-7, then has the "6.5 Litre Engine Option" added.

The 6.5 Litre Engine Option included the following advertised items:

67: 320 hp (325 hp in 68) Marauder 390 GT V-8 Engine (6.5 litre) with 600 CFM Holley Model 4150 Carburetor and 10.5:1 compression ratio. Includes chrome Dress-Up kit - Air Filter Cover, Engine Valve Covers, Oil Fill Cover/Crank Case Breather, Engine oil Dipstick Handle, and Autolite 13 pound Radiator Cap. -OR- 280 hp 390-2V V-S "X code" Engine in 68 with Autolite 2-barrel Carburetor.
Low restriction Air Filter
67: Normal restriction dual exhaust with acoustically tuned Mufflers. Oval resonators (not round as in GT option) were mounted in intermediate Pipes with transverse Muffler behind rear axle. Exhaust outlets "standard" - no chrome tips, etc. 68: Low restriction dual exhaust system. Intermediate Pipes with Mufflers followed by outlet Pipes over axle and then directly to rear Valance Panel. Transverse Muffler behind rear axle used on 1967 390 engine was deleted for 1968. Exhaust outlets "standard" - no chrome tips, etc. Two inch diameter Pipes throughout system on 390 Engine models.
Power booster (clutch) Fan.
"6.5 Litre" ornaments on front Fender sides.
Required and Optional Equipment

The 6.5 Litre Engine Option required an optional transmission - heavy duty 3-speed manual ($79.00), 4-speed manual $184.02), or C-6 (heavy duty) 3-speed automatic transmission ($215.99).
A 9-inch ring gear, removable differential carrier, rear axle design was used on the 6.5 litre Engine option.
The 6.5 Litre Engine Option could be ordered with any option available on the standard Cougar except for the GT Performance Group Option that included this Engine.
The 6.5 Litre Engine Option also included the following, non-advertised items:

Rubber Seal stapled to top of Radiator Support. Sealed-off air flow between top of Radiator Support and hood for improved Engine cooling.
Battery "L" shaped Heat Shield and Fan Shroud added, when air conditioning option selected.
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oh... you didnt know? ;)
 

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Oh Garey I know the feeling!! I bought the '67 S-Code and thought it was a GT. That was until I got the Marti report. Someone ordered a well optioned XR7 with 390/C6, A/C, PS, PDB, 9"....but didn't get the GT handling package- Say what?!

I still don't understand it :rolleyes:...but I do dig those 6.5 Litre Emblems over the GT's. :D

-Rob
 

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...but I do dig those 6.5 Litre Emblems over the GT's
Yeah that was one of the things I liked the most.
This is a 390 4V C6 A/C PDB Tilt away XR7.
Crazy
 

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xr7gt said:
Yeah that was one of the things I liked the most.
This is a 390 4V C6 A/C PDB Tilt away XR7.
Crazy
I wonder if our cars were ordered by the same person?:rolleyes: Mine also had tilt-away, AM/8-track radio, and tinted glass.

Anyways, I cannot for the life of my figure out why someone would order practically every option, BUT the GT option. :1poke:
 

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The 6.5 litre badges are a constant source of amazement to the 14 - 25 year old crowd. They know it means their 1.8 liter Hondas don't measure up right away.
 

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5th digit indicates engine size only not model so as you have deduced the engine is the GT and the model is 6.5L.
 

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The 6.5 litre badges are a constant source of amazement to the 14 - 25 year old crowd. They know it means their 1.8 liter Hondas don't measure up right away.
You're dead-on with that one. In fact, the whole 'cubic inches' thing means nothing to a lot of people under 20 (calm down, you younger guys, I don't mean you). At the nationals, I had a kid ask me what 460 translated to in liters. Upon answering, he just said "Oh" and walked away with slightly widened eyes.

I love it. :rolleyes:
 

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You ought to see the reaction to guys at the track with my buddy's Mustang. It was a stroked 460 that displaced 514 inches. He put a 5.8 litre badge on it that looks similar to the 5.0 fender badge seen on Mustangs, but cut and transposed the numbers to read 8.5 (actually it works ot to 8.422 litres, but that's close enough :p ) Now that it has an even bigger stoker 460 in it, now displacing 557 inches, he is going to get another set of badges, and again cut and arrange the numbers to read 558 (inches) since we don't know what emblems to use that would make up a 9.127 (litres). Hmmmm. Maybe transpose a 1.9 litre Escort emblem? :D
 

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Ha!

FYI, if you need to convert inches to litres on the spot, multiply liters by 60 to get cubic inches. It's not exact, but it'll get you pretty darn close.

Funny about comparing the 6.5 liter engine to 1.8 Honda, that's more than 4 times bigger!!!! Gotta love that!!!!

And by the way Garey, Rob, and all you other guys with "only" the 6.5 Litre and not the 390 GT, us guys with 302's will happily take those "crappy" engines off your hands! ;) (I'll take the 9" rear too -- in fact, why don't you just send the car down here, I'll give it a good home!)
 

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eh hem! It is the 390 GT Engine :1poke: just not the GT package in my case the bigger springs shocks GT emblems and sway bar.
Sensitive, aren't I?
 

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Sorry Garey, you're right, I didn't read the post correctly the first time....
That does sound pretty crappy... and it's really unfortunate how hard it is to upgrade suspension components...
Better put that horrible cat on a truck my way.... I'll even cover the shipping costs, Merry Christmas!

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really? you want such a well optioned non GT?
 

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really? you want such a well optioned non GT?
Whoa now-! Us well optioned non-GT guys need to stick together. So I think if you're going to send the car to anyone, it needs to be me. :D

Also Leon, I'll go for that. :D When someone asks me why it doesn't have the GT package, I'll just say, "I think they liked the 6.5 Litre emblems better then the GT's." ;)

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"I think they liked the 6.5 Litre emblems better then the GT's." ;)

-Rob
That's my story and I am sticking to it.
Truth be told I am more interested in the car now because of it's options. I can't wait till I enter it in the 68 XR7 Class at the nationals and they try to get me to enter it in the GT Class.
 

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Hey Gary!
You don't have to ship it anywhere.I'll give you what you paid for it and come and get it.Hay!, and I'll even throw in a couple hundred bucks profit for ya!
Don
 

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how about charity for a young guy? ill give ya the last 3 beers in my fridge for it. :D cmon... big blocks are hard to come by for a youngun. only Ford one ive been in was a Fairlane... with a 460..... but hey thats still not a Cougar right? ha ha
 

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Maybe I should have a raffle 10 tickets for $100
 

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All you 'S' code guys whining is getting old :)

Pity the poor 302 guys...not to mention us unfortunate 'X' coder's. Thankfully I had the presence of mind to keep the 700 lb 2V intake when the Performer RPM was added. Just in case I wanted to go backwards horsepower wise...

It's not just the under 25 'ricers' that marvel at the 6.5 badges. The last show I went to I had 10 guys (mostly Chevys so it was excusable :p) ask what was under the hood. Couldn't believe that a car from the 60's had Liter emblems :)

I told 'em it was a 427 side oiler....HA!

Ken
 
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