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Beck_aly

Discussion Starter · 23 d ago

Hi all, on Saturday I picked up my new baby 69 with a 351w/c6 needs lots of work but i'm up for the challenge to bring her back to life. I've gone through lots of posts, and I already would like to thank the many users on this forum for sharing their experience and knowledge.

Top priority to do list:
1. figure out wiring. Alternator is remanufactured, new battery, new starter regulator. but the alternator isn't kicking in.
2. Gauges. the only thing working at the moment is the alternator light is on. everything else is not operable.
3. install the 4barrel carb that is in the trunk.

Wish me luck

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catman

· #2 · 23 d ago

Beck_aly said:
Hi all, on Saturday I picked up my new baby 69 with a 351w/c6 needs lots of work but i'm up for the challenge to bring her back to life. I've gone through lots of posts, and I already would like to thank the many users on this forum for sharing their experience and knowledge.

Top priority to do list:
1. figure out wiring. Alternator is remanufactured, new battery, new starter regulator. but the alternator isn't kicking in.
2. Gauges. the only thing working at the moment is the alternator light is on. everything else is not operable.
3. install the 4barrel carb that is in the trunk.

Wish me luck

You won't need that much luck if you have one of these.... the Bible of the 69 Cougar.

1969 Ford Car Shop Service Repair Manual 5 Volume Set Mustang Mercury Cougar ++ | eBay

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Beck_aly

Discussion Starter · #3 · 23 d ago

catman said:
You won't need that much luck if you have one of these.... the Bible of the 69 Cougar.

1969 Ford Car Shop Service Repair Manual 5 Volume Set Mustang Mercury Cougar ++ | eBay

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Ok, thats for sure a must! that needs to be the first thing i buy

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gocorcoran

· #4 · 22 d ago

Beck_aly said:
Hi all, on Saturday I picked up my new baby 69 with a 351w/c6 needs lots of work but i'm up for the challenge to bring her back to life. I've gone through lots of posts, and I already would like to thank the many users on this forum for sharing their experience and knowledge.

Top priority to do list:
1. figure out wiring. Alternator is remanufactured, new battery, new starter regulator. but the alternator isn't kicking in.
2. Gauges. the only thing working at the moment is the alternator light is on. everything else is not operable.
3. install the 4barrel carb that is in the trunk.

Wish me luck

Not sure what a starter regulator means. There is a voltage regulator, and there is a starter solenoid. I'm not aware of anything called a starter regulator. The alternator output charges the battery through its connection at the positive battery terminal of the starter solenoid, but the amount of charge being generated comes from the voltage regulator. My best guess is one of the two is mis-wired. Getting the service manual will help you figure out the correct wiring. Is the alternator case and the base of the voltage regulator grounded properly? Please keep us updated.

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gocorcoran

· #5 · 22 d ago

Beck_aly said:
Hi all, on Saturday I picked up my new baby 69 with a 351w/c6 needs lots of work but i'm up for the challenge to bring her back to life. I've gone through lots of posts, and I already would like to thank the many users on this forum for sharing their experience and knowledge.

Top priority to do list:
1. figure out wiring. Alternator is remanufactured, new battery, new starter regulator. but the alternator isn't kicking in.
2. Gauges. the only thing working at the moment is the alternator light is on. everything else is not operable.
3. install the 4barrel carb that is in the trunk.

Wish me luck

for the gauges there is a 5 volt voltage regulator on the back of the instrument cluster. That is shown how to test, access and replace in the service manual. However your other idiot lights should also work as they do not use the voltage regulator. Not sure how to make any progress without some more details, for example do the turn signal lights work? Do the dash lights come on when the headlights are on? Is your car an XR7 or standard Cougar?

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Beck_aly

Discussion Starter · #6 · 21 d ago

gocorcoran said:
Not sure what a starter regulator means. There is a voltage regulator, and there is a starter solenoid. I'm not aware of anything called a starter regulator. The alternator output charges the battery through its connection at the positive battery terminal of the starter solenoid, but the amount of charge being generated comes from the voltage regulator. My best guess is one of the two is mis-wired. Getting the service manual will help you figure out the correct wiring. Is the alternator case and the base of the voltage regulator grounded properly? Please keep us updated.

Thank you much. Yes i ordered the service manual. It should arrive by Tuesday the 16th.
I personally dont know what its called, but im using the same terms some of the people that called it that. (correct me if im wrong please).
so the alternator positive connects to this unit, then from this unit to the battery.
The alternator negative connects to the block
the negative connections from this unit connects to the starter
Thats how i have followed the wiring as it stands.

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Beck_aly

Discussion Starter · #7 · 21 d ago

gocorcoran said:
for the gauges there is a 5 volt voltage regulator on the back of the instrument cluster. That is shown how to test, access and replace in the service manual. However your other idiot lights should also work as they do not use the voltage regulator. Not sure how to make any progress without some more details, for example do the turn signal lights work? Do the dash lights come on when the headlights are on? Is your car an XR7 or standard Cougar?

Im waiting on the service manuals, ill keep you udpated.
But i think ihave the standard cougar. i dont think its the xr7

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gocorcoran

· #8 · 21 d ago

Beck_aly said:
Im waiting on the service manuals, ill keep you udpated.
But i think ihave the standard cougar. i dont think its the xr7

You can also get some wiring diagrams for free download from one of the Cougar specific parts suppliers

Manual - Complete Electrical Schematic - Free Download ~ 1969 Mercury Cougar

12MB Downloadable PDF file of the complete 1969 Mercury Cougar electrical wiring diagram used by Ford Technicians. This is a free download that you can add to your shopping cart.

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the part in your picture is the starter solenoid. the other one not pictured should be the voltage regulator

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Beck_aly

Discussion Starter · #9 · 20 d ago

gocorcoran said:
You can also get some wiring diagrams for free download from one of the Cougar specific parts suppliers

Manual - Complete Electrical Schematic - Free Download ~ 1969 Mercury Cougar

12MB Downloadable PDF file of the complete 1969 Mercury Cougar electrical wiring diagram used by Ford Technicians. This is a free download that you can add to your shopping cart.

secure.cougarpartscatalog.com

the part in your picture is the starter solenoid. the other one not pictured should be the voltage regulator

greatly appreciate your input.
I downloaded all the free PDFs of the wiring diagrams.
Electrical is not my strong side, but im working my way thru it

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C7W289

· #10 · 20 h ago

My quick test to see if the alternator is working is to have a good voltmeter and check the battery before starting; it is usually about 12.5 volts or so. Start the car, and it should go up significantly, to maybe 14 volts. If it does not change or starts dropping, you are not charging. If you have a lot of electrical gremlins, then you should buy a decent voltmeter and maybe a test light. They help a lot. Dirty connections can be a problem so watch for that.

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Beck_aly

Discussion Starter · #11 · 20 h ago

C7W289 said:
My quick test to see if the alternator is working is to have a good voltmeter and check the battery before starting; it is usually about 12.5 volts or so. Start the car, and it should go up significantly, to maybe 14 volts. If it does not change or starts dropping, you are not charging. If you have a lot of electrical gremlins, then you should buy a decent voltmeter and maybe a test light. They help a lot. Dirty connections can be a problem so watch for that.

thanks man, that helps.
also, i ordered a single wire alternator thats 140 amps. that 60 amp is not gunna cut it tbh.

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