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Ran it at the track this week......IT RAN 13.70's FIRST TIME OUT!!!!

The track was like a skating rink -- no traction to be had (check out my quarters). I made seven passes, with a best of 13.704 @ 100.25. Not too bad, especially for driving it to the track 65 miles each way with full exhaust, a basically stock CJ (pulls 16" of vacuum at idle) and P225-70-14 non-sticky street tires. Oh, the engine had about 200 miles on it, so the rings are probably not seated fully yet -- it still smokes a bit if you look in headlites at night. I am assuming the car weighs about 3900# (a friend's 429 XR7 weighs 4050).

<img src="http://www.sea-tools.com/429Cougar/images/dragnite.jpg">

Yeah, I know the reaction times are bad! I was just shreading tires from the start. I tried loading the converter (really bad), just flooring it (still bad), rolling out and hitting it (better). Most runs were two full gears of tirespin (yes I drove around the water and did a dry burnout). This run was the "let it roll out"-style, but that made for really bad reaction times. Other runs not letting it roll out were in the .600-.800s (not John Force, but better ).

The temps were cool (high 60's), the car wanted more fuel now that I think about it but I didn't have a large enough jet assortment. Altitude is about 700'.

The only trick/non-stock stuff is:

a) the full mandrel-bent 2.5" exhaust. Mandrel bends do not lose diamete like die bends so, so the exhaust is a true 2.5" out the back. CJ manifolds tho'

b) A mild Crane 353941 cam (.518"/.513" 216*/228* @0.050" on a 112* LC) installed 4* advanced.

c) SCJ intake w/SCJ Holley. Ended up with 72 primary (would like to go to 76) and 84 secondary (started w/78 and gained 2 MPH with the jet change); 8.5 power valve, long yellow spring (white did not seem to bog, but I thought it was too light for this heavey car). Floats adjusted slightly high. Any suggestions or anyone with a similar setup?

d) Only 10:1 compression; using dished forged pistons that resemble the early TJ slugs. Running Autolite 24 plugs @ 0.050" gap with an MSD Blaster ignition w/Duraspark distributor. 39* total timing allin by 3K (13* initial). I tried the old standby NGK -6s but they did not work well -- maybe too cold.

e) 3.70 gears, stock CJ C6 with a stock Ford CJ 11" converter (maybe 2500 stall).

f) Milodon Megaflow exhaust valves, standard Milodon stainless valves for intake.

I think with a couple of hours of dyno and/or tuning time, 12's are in the realm of possibility! This is a good thing as the fastest CJ cars there now are running 14.30s in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drags.

Here's a shot of the nearly finished engine compartment:
<img src="http://www.sea-tools.com/429Cougar/images/PICT0450_.jpg">

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Dan
 

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Congrat's on those time's, pretty darn good for a basically a stock car. I believe I seen that car this past spring at the show at the Ford world headquarter's.(was that it?) I noticed you were at Milan dragway and I also seen Mccormack racing on your time slip, I've been away from it so long I didn't know Jack Mccormack was still even around. Just goe's to show you what I know. If it's the same car I seen it's a beauty. Jon
 

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So...

So I just have to ask Dan....Did you smoke that Chevy in the pic? :D

Dale
 

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Very cool.
WoooooooooooooooHoooooooooooooooooooo!
 

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Hi Dan,
Nice Cougar. I hope you consider the Factory Stock Muscle Car Drags too. I went there this year with my '68 1/2 428CJ XR-7 and had a wonderful time blowing away GTO's, 442's, Z-28's etc. They paired me with a '69 Firebird 400 for the eliminations and he lost the 2 out of three shootout.

Several car magazines covered the event, so far Muscle Car Motion is the only one to run a story.

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Sounds like you need some of that sticky stuff behind the Queens Road East markets for traction adhesive and a couple of cans of Tsing Tsau to improve reaction times

Nice going

(ex RHKJC)
 

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nice to see one of the 3rd gens out there whipping some chevy butt.
 

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OUTSTANDING!!! I used to go Milan in my younger days...

BTW... You can break into the 12s if you just leave the A/C off:1poke: just kidding. Very good times!!!


Also a bottle of "Goo-Gone" will clean up those 1/4 panels

Don:p:
 

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were we neighbor's?

Ah come on you guy's, It sound's like we were neighbor's at one time or another... I used to go out there alot in the early to mid seventy's. Used to follow Carl Holbrook out there alot and my ex- brother-in-law used to race with the wheel City team. Ring any bell's????
 

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Dan,

Come on down to Norwalk next year sometime. I hope to have my 73 'AlphaCat' done by then. Maybe Fun Ford Weekend? I should be running in the high 12s if I can beg, borrow or steal a set of slicks.

I had thought about putting a 429CJ into mine. I even had the engine already. By the time I added up the cost to convert everything over from the Cleveland to the 429, I decided to stick with my freshly-rebuilt Cleveland. I sold the 429CJ for $600. I still have the CJ intake and carb.

Nice to see a 3rd gen Cat out there. Keep up the good work!
 

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Re: were we neighbor's?

Jon Manning said:
Ah come on you guy's, It sound's like we were neighbor's at one time or another... I used to go out there alot in the early to mid seventy's. Used to follow Carl Holbrook out there alot and my ex- brother-in-law used to race with the wheel City team. Ring any bell's????

Not really.... grew up in Allen Park, Went to Melvindale High, Used to race out on the Graph... Party out on hines drive (pre-no parking signs) Hung out at Capt Ahabs in Wyndot (sp?)
Also Raced in Milan, MOPAR products mostly....74-78 timeframe. Always went to detriot dragstrip nationals....
Ahhhh Those were the Days!!

Don
 
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