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Can't find the 'Idiots guide to Engines' so please help, this is our engine, sorry the pic is not so good, but hey, the sun shines in Africa. When we got the cougar someone looked at the engine and was going on about 2V & 4V?????????
The carb is a Holley LIST1850-4, whats that in normal language.
We have no history for her yet, so I am counting on you guys for help. You may have gathered that I am the female half of 'our'.
 

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Another picture, not much clearer I'm afraid.
 

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Well, the Holley is a 600cfm, vaccuum secondary with a metering plate instead of a metering block. It's a universal carb and very user friendly if it's not abused, (throttle shafts not wabbly, base not warped,etc)
The 2V and 4V are refered to as the heads. 2V is small ports and valves, open chambers (8.5-9.5 compression)(awesome for the street and auto car) and 4V is huge ports and valves, closed chambers (11.3 compression for early heads) nd basically for high RPM and best with standard trannies) Look on top of the heads for a number in the corner (with covers still on). 2 is 2V, 4 is 4V There is a book you can order form any online book store called "How to rebuild your Ford V8 351C-M-400-429-460 by Tom Monroe. Its an HP book series and the ISBN number is 0-89586-036-8 I wouldnt build one without it. It gives all part numbers, etc. Worth the money just to read. Good luck.

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Thanks Rick, it looks like the engine has been well looked after, makes me wonder why the PO sold it, the body has quite a bit of rust, its been resprayed right over the rust, respray does'nt look as if its that old, probably a year or so, couple of chips on the doors and some surface scratches, the rust is starting to come thru the paint at the boot section, and in 'hidden places'. underneath looks a bit bad, but then having seen pics of other peoples new 'flows' I guess its normal. Will try and get hold of that book, just want to check out if its cheaper to order from a auto place here who put in a bulk order or to do it myself, the exchange rate is harsh on our side, + postage etc. We paid about $2300 for her, current exchange rate, what do you think, its unigueness alone is worth quite a bit, lots of strange cars seem to be driving past our house lately........very slowly!!:D
 

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That thing in the middle of the two heads says 'Edelbrock' in the front and 'Performer LB 351 2V'. Think its the manifold, sorry having a DB moment.
 

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I dont know what its like in South Africa, but Ive never seen cool cars on any shows from there, so I bet it is unique to see one, that's why cars go slow by your place. Time to tie the lion or baboon out front,lol. Your car looks great I think, Im in Canada so any Cougar outside of North America is awesome, just have fun.
The intake says you have a 2V motor with an aftermarket alum. intake on it, which is perfect for the car. You dont have to wind it up to get it to move, and cruizes nicely I bet. The intake and carb are a nice upgrade for the 2V motor, I wouldnt change it unless the carb is giving you problems, otherwise, most still have the 2barrel on them. Upgrade to a nice set of dual exhaust (if not already on) and good mufflers, and your set for the body work. Now, we just need a picture of you both, kinda hard to tell what you look like thru your kids,lol.

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She cruises pretty well, we've only really opened her up once or twice, the 2nd time with my brother-in-law and sister with us, I think they were mpressed, we are a bit hesitant to really take her for all out till we know more about the engine etc, just now the whole thing falls apart. She's got dual exhausts, stainless steel, dirty s/s. will have to find a hoist to put her on to have a good look. First thing that has to go is the red airhorns behind the grill in front, looks awful. Back tailight is broken so have to find one via the internet, and one indicator is a pale yellow compared to the other one, another thing to replace, black leather seats all in good nick, small tear on drivers side seat, got the cougar emblem imprinted on the seats, looks good. Otherwise just the normal problems of a 30year old car. Electric windows very choppy. Going to have to get books, does that one you mentioned have a wiring diagram, what is meant by sequential lights? I saw a web page for repairing 68/69 sequ. lights, would they wiring be the same on the 72? Thanks for all your info, its really helping us out.
 

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Well I guess I'll speak out on this one the sequential tailights means that you have three actaul tail lights and all three should blink when you have your turn signals on and as such each one should blink inturn and flow toward the outside of the car. Now the wiring diagrams for the 71-73 I do believe are all very simliar and the book dark was talking about will probably only cover the carb. Hope isn't to confusing you.
 

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No, not too confusing thanks Rbaney, wiring is my part of all restorations, give me a wiring diagram and a stuffed eletrical system and I am in my element. I thought that was what it meant by sequential lights but to be honest pictures of Night Rider where popping up in my mind. Saved the web page, did not look at the info, yet. We have 2 Kombi's [1973&4], 81 escort, and a 79 900F we 'were' working on, slowly, cougar has now jumped ahead of all of those, the excort is for my 15yr old, he will only need it in 3 yrs time, kids can only get their license at 18 here, but,they can also drink legally at 18!! My 18yr old is busy working on a Renault 9, might be ready by the next millenium. 20yr old wants the 'mystery Chev'.
 

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heeeeeeyyyy

Ok i resent the flows comment...lol just kidding, yes it is true these cars love to just rust away in all kinds of places, floors being one of them, now while mine may look bad they are only surface a good cleaning and undercoating and walla brand new (looking) lol.
I am performing the same conversion that your motor already has done. As for the Clevelands ability to haul , i can say first hand that my 130,000 mile cat can still rip up the one tire even with the stock 2bbl on it:)

Enjoy her she is a priceless commodity, and she is a Cat!
 

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Sorry Dave, it was just nice to see the underneath of a cat that looked the same as ours. What happened to the pics of your flows, my son [who is reading all this over my shoulder] wanted to know what they were,what they looked like, what the proper name was, how much did they cost, etc. Searched all over, can't find the pics. Also now totally forgotten what I wanted to say. Ok, I'm getting old, we have not yet checked the miliage on our cat, I know that sounds stupid but we did'nt really care how many miles she had done, we wanted her. I guess whatever it says on the odometer will have to have a 1 in front of it, hopefully not a 2. Going to check out the exhaust tomorrow, just wanted to find a place where they could put her up on the hoist, they don't cater for bigger cars here. Found out that 1 new tyre will set us back about R1399.00, we are now debating on whether to drive her, or put her on a flatbed trailor and tow her. lol
 

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Question, since both of you post under the same name, could you put your name down so we know whose writing. I noticed in the paint question one of you posted. If its the female of the family that responded, COOL!!!!
Dave has Flowmaster mufflers, they are about 70US or so each for the 3 chamber mufflers, and they sound great with full tailpipes, or real loud and nasty without,lol.


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Hi Dark, its the female side, it will always be me, the male side is too busy doing things I should be doing instead of sitting on the net all night ....joking lol. He does not have the patience to sit and wait for pages to load etc, tells me what to find and so on.
Also does not have the patience to wait for spraypaint to dry, so that is my part of resto's as well as wiring, also explains why I know about the 'orange peel' and 'runons' and and and. When you do the job, you gotta do it right. Thanks for the info on the flowmasters, wonder what the equivalent will be here, what do they go for there, quick calculation will decide to replace or repairs, .....now where did I put that brazing stuff???
 

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Okay $70, thats about R700, not too bad, 4 tyres + 2 xh should set us back about R7grand, ok, now she is getting onto a flatbed.
 

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R7grand,. what is your money conversion. Im Canadian, and our money conversion is 1US=1.56Can. or so Flowmasters here cost 125.Can. each for 3 chamber 2 1/2in. in and out. The added expense isnt worth it right now. I use Flowtech Raptor mufflers, basically just a turbo muffler and only cost 25.Can. each :D. They sound real good with headers. Dont skimp on tires though. What's your real name, and post a picture of you and the man in the gallery, we've seen the kids, thanx, but one of you two would be good, Thanx

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You are just not going to let up about those photos are you? Will have a look round and see what I can dig up, nothing on the pc for either of us, will have to find one and scan it in. Just checked the exchange rate and its R10.80 to 1$. Pretty harsh. My names Dayle, better halfs name is Stephen. Will have to check out what is available here, did hear a name mentioned awhile ago, can't remember it tho', we normally take our cars in and tell them to put on an exhaust, no names, just fix it, of course with the cat it will be different. When I find out whats here I will send you the name, maybe we even get flowmasters. Also your option sounds like a better bet. We've got BF Goodrich tyres, ever heard of them? And if that is a DB Q, sorry.
 

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In my opinion, (doesnt usually count for much around here,lol) BF Goodrich are the best tire (trye) out there.

I dont give up on pictures, ask myclassy67 or Cougar Kitty, Im persistent. I like putting a face to the name Im chatting with, makes it more personal I think, all good though. :D

Thanx, nice to meet you Dayle and Stephen

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Thats what we were told about the Goodrich, but just wanted to find out if it was salestalk or true, I will take your opinion as valid, they are the best.
Nice to meet you to Rick, and ditto from Stephen.
 

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I found Wildcat and Powerflow, put in a query to Wildcat, like the name, will see what they come up with, theres a wildcat place here in town. Powerflow, will phone, problem is I don't know if they will know what I am talking about when I say its a Cougar, I've already had one ah saying its a 'kit-car', will probably have to take her in.http://www.wildcat-int.co.za/wildcathome.htm, if you want to check it out and see what SA has to offer, went to their products page, could not find one V8.....
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Dayle, any Sonic Turbo muffler will sound nice on your car with tailpipes. They are a step up from stock mufflers. Glass packs are kinda nice too but dont last long, they burn out, then get REAL loud,lol.
I tried the SA site, couldnt get into much, maybe just my puter. Try saying Mustang or something. Everyone knows Mustangs right,lol.
 
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