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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    Amen!! Nothing else sounds like one going going down track- easy to pick out
    1969 E-cat warmed-over 351W AOD

    1969 XR7 S Code vert in progress

    1968 F code XR7 - waiting for re-imbursment from bro-in law :>\

    1998 F150 4x4 D.D - 300k on the clock!

    2001 F150 4x4 backup for 98 ;>P

    2 x 1985 Suzuki Madura 1200's. One done - one in progress

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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    I haven't found much, but I did come across a NOS set of Lemans rods on Ebay, but bidding started out at $850, so I just passed on them. I will probably have to go a set of reasonably priced SCAT rods.


    The biggest ticket item I am dealing with are the heads, I want aluminum with quick burn chambers and flow around 320cfm at .600" lift, pricing is around $3000 so I have to save a while for those.


    So in order to get this car running for now I am still going to put the 390 together I picked up. I have picked up a few items to finish it, a new Isky cam an ee-391 grind, .560" valve lift and 250* dur @ .050"and a set of shell lifters, also a new Romac balancer so I can get the bottom end balanced.
    Richard

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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    That will have some "thump" to it ....

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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    Things have not moved along as I would of liked, money has been tight but have picked up a few minor items.


    I had gotten it into the garage some time ago, but until recently had not done anything to it.


    I got the headers off and that took a lot of work.


    The heads I was very curious about so those came off, and found out some interesting things. The No.1 piston has a nice indentation from where it was hitting the head, so I know which rod bearing went, and cyl No.5 & No.6 were sucking water from the intake manifold, indicated by the rust on top of the pistons.
















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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    ouch..... she was certainly a hurtin unit!
    1969 E-cat warmed-over 351W AOD

    1969 XR7 S Code vert in progress

    1968 F code XR7 - waiting for re-imbursment from bro-in law :>\

    1998 F150 4x4 D.D - 300k on the clock!

    2001 F150 4x4 backup for 98 ;>P

    2 x 1985 Suzuki Madura 1200's. One done - one in progress

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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    I've had these items just show up at my door. Heads are the NHRA legal casting CNCed Edelbrock Pro Ports, with stock location exh. Shock Towers made it necessary to go with stock location exh, due to how tight the 2 1/8" adjustable headers were, I couldn't take the chance with having the headers re-flanged, then dealing with fitment issues.

    Then I had my "J" Sidewinder matched ported

    Flow numbers @ .600" lift cam, which is what I am running: 330 Int & 232 exh with no pipe.

    Intake valve 2.200 BP spec Ferrea
    Exh. valve 1.650 BP spec Ferrea

    There's this guy on one of the Ford Forums that has a program that from engine and car spec's, allows the program with a fair degree of accuracy
    to determine an engines Torque & HP and how the car would run in the 1/8 & 1/4 mile, including a 60 ft.

    Spec's: 67 Cougar, C6 3500 stall, 4:57 locker
    427 @ 429 ci. flat tops @ 10.5 CR with Blair's Pro Ports, matched ported Sidewinder with an 850 Holley
    Crower cam: 604/618 lift & 263/272 @ .050", with 108 LS - 104 IC
    Exhaust 2 1/8 adjustable Hookers
    Engine & Car Ratings:

    427 car
    Torq 560 at 4600
    Powr 594 at 6100
    1.60
    7.18 at 96.7
    11.22 at 121.1






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    Re: Long Neglected Project

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    New Year's Update:

    Still slowly collecting parts for the engine build as funds allow. I went with a Canton Aluminum 8 Quart Road Race pan with the needed pickup, and a POP'S Blueprinted Melling HV pump .

    Originally, I was going to run a Holley 850 DP which is not a very fuel minded carb for a daily driver, so had been looking for a Vacuum secondary carb around the same CFM, and came across this NOS Holley 1,050 CFM 3 Barrel, this should be interesting.
    Richard

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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    I have a 950 3V on the shelf, for a maybe some day 429 55 chevy pick up project....The straight fuel legs on yours are different than mine..As I recall. I don't think I have unpacked it yet...
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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    Hi,

    Yea, you have the 3616-1S 3 barrel with down leg boosters and is rated 950 CFM, I have the 4604-S 3 barrel with the smaller tube legs in the rear that allow it to flow more CFM so is rated at 1,050.
    If you end up needing a kit, I found this place has them for $60.00, but doesn't include the secondary diaphragm, those are separate and are also $60.00. I have found some gaskets on ebay for these, but there just regular gaskets for other models poorly cut to fit the 3 barrel. But this place supposedly makes them for direct fit.
    https://www.daytonaparts.com/

    There is also the Edelbrock Mark 11 4604-S that Edelbrock had Holley make for them with Annular boosters in the rear, but it's rated at 950CFM

    Richard

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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    I had bought some stuff from Daytona before, but didn't think about them for the 3V, thanks for posting that reminder! I've been happy with their customer service so far! They also have/sell parts for the Shelby "lemans" Carbs that I have such a stupid fascination for...
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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    Update, I had previously sent out my Sidewinder to be match ported, when I got it back, I was very disappointed on how it turned out, so I just shelved it. Eight months later, I pull the manifold down and sent it out to get welded, and then got in touch with Joe D. Craine, who ports and balance flows each manifold runner till their balanced, to make a long story short the manifold showed today, it will make a substantial improvement on my heads now.


    Richard

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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    These recently showed, Vacuum formed covers, so I mocked them up checking for enough clearance, looks to have plenty of room with the Harland Sharp steel end stands, Aluminum spacers, Cast Iron inner factory stands, Crane Cams 1.76 Ductile Iron Adjustable Rocker Arms with upgraded 7/16" 12 point ARP nuts, replacing the heavier original 5/8' 6 point nuts. Now, I will have to sit down, and shim all the rockers centered on the valves.


    Richard

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    Re: Long Neglected Project

    Build update: I finally picked up a set of rods, these are a set of custom $2300 BBC Crower Billet rods on sale for $320 out of their Clearance Section.

    Because their BBC rods they won't fit my FE crank without modifying it substantially , and so I decided to go a new crank, that being a Scat 4.125" stroker, making my build now 468 ci.

    Here are the spec's on the rods:

    6.500 CTOC
    2.325 BE BORE
    .900 BE WIDTH
    .927 PE BORE
    .900 PE WIDTH
    CENTER BEARINGS
    GRAM WEIGHTS: 577 / 257

    As I mentioned earlier, these are custom rods, for instance their only .900" wide and a BBC rod is .990" wide. The BBC jrl width is 2.008" wide" and the combined rod width are 1.800", leaving .208" side clearance, I am providing and additional .100" side clearance by having .050" machined off each rod where the rods would normally ride against each other. The bearings which have clearance for the crank jrl radius I will flip in the rods, the upper put in the cap and the cap shell place in the upper part of the rod, now the jrl radius is moved to the inside of the rod, allowing for the .050" to be removed from the rods without touching the bearings.

    So what I am doing is what is called Piston Guided Rods, the rod side clearance will be set in between the small end of the rods and the pin bosses. I've included a picture of one of my new rods, one of a crank that is set up for piston guided rods, and a picture of a piston, one of a set I just received for mock up purposes, which was hard to find, since it uses .927" SBC pins to fit my rods and are a BBF 4.250" bore. I forgot to mention another custom feature of these new rods they are bushed for SBC .927" pins, and how lucky I was to find these pistons.
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