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    Looking for Opinions on this one...

    Link to pics; http://imageshack.us/g/1/9851384/

    It runs and drives, and suspension & brakes were done 5 or so years ago.

    Let me know what you guys think.
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    Re: Looking for Opinions on this one...

    Looks like it should be sitting in Mike's garage! Obviously she's seen some action at the track, and has some areas headed down the rusty road, but all in all - looks like a fairly sound not to molested one. If the price is right - it's a good one for resto. I'd call it a keeper
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    Re: Looking for Opinions on this one...

    First, do you have access to look at it in person? Or did you take these pics?

    Looks like it has some previous body work that is starting to separate. I would check the inside/backside of the panels to see if there are patches and how they were done.
    Some pretty significant surface rust on underside of frame rails in a couple spots, curious as to how deep it goes.
    Looks fairly solid, but hard to tell with out going a little deeper into it.
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    I am no expert but overall it doesn't look like a bad car but has the drivers side quarter panel been hit and bondoed back into shape? It probably needs to be replaced then.
    It looks like some of the expensive parts are there (rev limiter, distributor oil cooler,ram-air top and seal) but the smog ,exhaust manifolds are missing and the air cleaner base is for a non ram-air with the flap in the side.
    A SCJ 4 speed eliminator in a nice color with a decore interior I like it.
    I hope this helps Mike

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    Wow!! What a beauty. Buy her, because if you don't, I will!

    Sean
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    Re: Looking for Opinions on this one...

    Check it out in person if possible. It seems to have some minor body problems but nothing I would pass it up for. If the price is right go for it.

    David

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    Re: Looking for Opinions on this one...

    It has all the right options. My least favorite color though. It just depends on the price !
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    68 390 4V XR7G Dk Blue/Dk Blue w/Sunroof
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    69 428CJ 4Spd Cyclone CJ Maroon/Blk 29K miles
    69 390 4Spd XR7 Sunroof Med.Lime/Dark Ivy(for sale $8.5k)
    04 Cobra Conv't.4.6 DOHC Supercharged Blk/Grey
    70 390 Javelin SST Big Bad Grn/Blk 700R4
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    Re: Looking for Opinions on this one...

    It is an original owner car. Sold in Oakland and still lives there today.

    I'm supposed to go check it out in person this friday / saturday.

    It was rear ended long ago and "they replaced both rear quarters". I'm guessing the hit was hard enough to wrinkle up the pillars around the back windows, thus the putty flaking off there.

    So my main concern is identifying that it actually IS a SCJ engine in the car. Without the correct engine the price becomes an issue, for me.

    It looks to me like the distributor vac advance has been painted, and the secondary line is capped. Not sure why that would be done. Makes me wonder if the distributor has been replaced. Or given Tinman's comment on the air cleaner base, I'd guess the carb is not original.

    Car has had headers added, and it looks like they cut a notch in the passenger shock tower (maybe drivers side too, no pic tho). The pic looks like there are scratches in that shock tower, but I donít think they are cracks. Although there appears to be quite a gap between the shock tower and the reinforcement.


    Drivers side floor pan looks a bit crusty, which makes me wonder about a leaking cowl.


    Looks like there is also a puncture hole in the bottom of the rocker.




    Seller says he couldnít find the VIN stamp on the block, but the date code is 9H28 ~ which I believe is Aug 28, 1969. Build date on the car is Oct 6th, 1969, so I donít think that date is out of line with production, but I could be wrong.



    It runs and drives, so I guess worst case I could get MAACO to paint over the big open spots so they donít rust out (my BIGGEST post-purchase worry, being here in rainy Oregon). Then cruise and enjoy it until restoration money is saved up.



    To me it looks like about $15k in body, paint and replacement of various missing bits to have a nice, moderately correct driver / cruiser.


    It is priced at THE LIMIT for my budget or I wouldn't even consider it. I can either buy it or fix it, but not both at the same time. It will have to wait a while for serious fixin.
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    If you buy that car and there is a lot of repair work to do , plan on spending every bit of DOUBLE the amount you have planned.

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    Well, yeah - it always costs more than you think, but it depends on how much you plan to do yourself. I think Mike lacks the real estate to do what he wants at the moment. But if it's a worthy car - it sure fits his original desires pretty well. Not my favorite color either , but not something I'd turn away from priced right. It does look like it was hit pretty square in the ass like you said - wrinkled below the glass. A properly equiped body shop could stretch that out reasonably well (if it wasn't already)....but that does effect value pretty heavily IMHO. If they chopped the shock towers to shove in headers - that might be a show stopper...? No reason I can think of to do that unless you are building a race only car....and even then it's unnecsessary. It's the weakest area of these cars and you don't want that compromised. Laying eyes on it in person is always different than pics. Date code sounds about right for the production date so....that's a good sign. Looks pretty prommising...but you should really dig into it more.
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    Re: Looking for Opinions on this one...

    Here are the shock towers - zoomed in and cropped.


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    Re: Looking for Opinions on this one...

    The shock towers were worse than that in our SCJ eliminator. We just welded in pieces from a parts car shaped to fit.
    as for the SCJ check for the "hatchet" behind the balancer. http://www.428cobrajet.com/cj-vs-scj
    Other than that you would have to drop the pan to check the crank and rods. Mike
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    Yeah, the ol BB is a snug fit. looks like they clearanced it only enough to keep the bolts from rattling....not so bad. It would drive you insane if it rubbed the whole time. the flanges on those headers are pretty thick which didn't help.
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    Re: Looking for Opinions on this one...

    I did get some pics inside the trunk area, and it doesn't look that bad (to me).

    http://imageshack.us/g/1/9855470/

    In the one shot of the passenger side you can see a flap of old metal at the top.

    It must not have been a really bad rear ender, or they probably would have totalled and junked the car. I think just enough to trash the tail and bend the rear quarters up and wrinkle the back pillars a bit.

    What do you guys think about the trunk / rear quarters? What about the panel below the rear window - do they all have that much curve to them?

    BTW - I googled up Grambling College (the decal in the back window). It is in Grambling, LA and became Grambling University in 1974. So maybe this car was a high school or college graduation present? I'll have to ask if I get a chance. Oh yeah, Grambling's school colors are gold and black. Coincidence?
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    Re: Looking for Opinions on this one...

    Looks like they could have done a better job dollying it out and they went a bit thick on the filler - that old body filler wasn't the best anyway. Looks to me like it could be easily worked out....they do have a nice smooth cupped curve in that area. It looks pretty close to where it should be. A little heat and hammer/dolly - I bet you could get it back very close to correct
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