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    VIN number anomaly?

    I wasn’t sure where to post this story but being that it has primarily to do with VIN numbers I thought that this was the most appropriate. In pulling apart this parts car that is currently in my garage (70 XR7) my father and I came across a most unusual find – an incorrectly [placed build sheet. Now when I say incorrect I mean the build sheet was not even close to what this car was supposed to be. While I’m testing some window motors on my work bench my dad tells me that he just pulled a build sheet in relatively good condition – almost all the code info is very legible. As he hands it to me and I read it through not noticing that the VIN number wasn’t even close to what this car is my eyes wander to the comment section at the bottom and it reads: Cougar Eliminator. WTF!!!?? I can’t make this up. Here’s is the pic – just pulled it out tonight and it says the color is orange. There’s no orange paint near this vehicle. The VIN on the build obviously is a “91” and the VIN on the car calls for a “93” designating an XR7 which it clearly is. There are no Eliminator parts on this car whatsoever – just XR7 stuff. The cars VIN is 0F93H514901 and the build sheet is 0F91M510705. Anybody want to shed some light on this type of anomaly?Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    Not all that unusual. I once found a Hemi RR build sheet in a 383 car. The workers just wanted rid of them and threw them anywhere quite often.
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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    These two VIN's were probably produced in September of 1969.

    Probably scheduled for building in batches, by DSO? Maybe a delay of Eliminator, 351-4V, or other assembly parts. In any event your car and the Eliminator likely came down the line very close together on the same day.

    I have found incorrect build sheets in cars too.
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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    One of the 429CJ cougar owners found a prestine build sheet in his car - it was for a 302 Mustang coupe!
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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    "I have learned that pleasing everyone is too hard, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake!!!"

    LOL Neil.

    "my father and I came across a most unusual find"

    Okay, I now believe you that your dad is involved in your Cougar parts business but I still think you make posts for/as him!

    In any case, Happy Holidays man.

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    Bob,

    You never cease to make me chuckle. You seem to be the only one who obsesses over the dynamic on how my father and I do business. Happy Holiday Buddy...

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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    Hopefully the owner of that eliminator is a member here or maybe Dave will shed some light on the subject.
    My elim came with the carpet and underlament removed and NO build sheet

    What are the odds that the car still exists and what current owner wouldn't love to add to the paperwork collection.....
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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAL-KAT View Post
    ...You seem to be the only one...
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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1969XR7Vert View Post
    Yep, I'm like Tigger from Whinnie The Pooh...
    Tigger? I was thinking more along the lines of this guy...<chuckle>

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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB BATTERSHILL View Post
    Hopefully the owner of that eliminator is a member here or maybe Dave will shed some light on the subject.
    My elim came with the carpet and underlament removed and NO build sheet

    What are the odds that the car still exists and what current owner wouldn't love to add to the paperwork collection.....
    Jeff,

    This car is not currently known to the Eliminator database or per Phil, previously known to the national database. Buildsheets are occasionally found, as they were supposed to be removed and thrown away. Sometimes multiples will be found, I have 3 from my '70 R code Mach1 that were all on the drivers floor. We have also had 2 additional different Vins in one vehicle. In that case the finder had two distinct buildsheets for other cars, but did not have one of their own.
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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    Neil,

    Would you please email me a high resolution photo of the buildsheet, so that I can add it to the registry?

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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    Interesting! Thanks, Dave.
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    Dave,

    Not a problem. I'll get that out as soon as I get home.

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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    My mother has a '73 mach 1 under the carpet on the passanger side same story two from her car one from another.

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    Re: VIN number anomaly?

    Neat. Assembly line culture is, to me, pretty intriguing to investigate. Especially during the old days of Cougar production.



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