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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1969XR7Vert View Post
    So looks like an old "68Fastcat" has risen again and now come forth to fill the void left by same!
    How soon we forget..... that ye old Cougar351 preceeded 68 FastCat as someone with very lofty ideas that his skills couldn't fulfill. During the whole fastcat mutilaton, I often thought that these two characters were separated at birth.
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Quote Originally Posted by Local Hero View Post
    How soon we forget..... that ye old Cougar351 preceeded 68 FastCat as someone with very lofty ideas that his skills couldn't fulfill. During the whole fastcat mutilaton, I often thought that these two characters were separated at birth.
    Me no forgety Lo Ho. Reference "an old "68Fastcat"". I was in fact referring to same in my cryptic post (apparently too cryptic!).
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Personally, I think ol' 68FastCat had some good ideas; just not willing to gather (or even accept) some knowledge on how to accomplish their goals. Mocking guys who were trying to help him out was his downfall.

    I have a lot of BIG IDEAS on what I want to do with my Cougar; but am willing to shut up about it and quietly gather more information until I'm ready to "GIT 'ER DOOOOOONE" (copyright Larry the Cable Guy); at which time I'l throw stuff out there and ask for experienced help regarding how to execute the job.

    I'm thinking Cougar351 has it right - he's asking for ideas/help now; not bragging to people about what he's gonna do with absolutely no clue how it's actually gonna happen.
    Look at it this way, he's managed to find somebody 'hiding in the woodwork' (mickp) who already blazing (see below) the trail; and can tell him where some of the pitfalls are hiding.

    EDIT: (This is "below"): Thanks Andy! I'll try to do something for you someday..... maybe talk craigster's brother-in-law into moving next door to you and telling everybody that you're his "special friend"
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertDawg View Post
    balzing the trail
    Are you trying to say he's been teabagged by Mick?


    I agree with what you're saying here. So far it's not so far out there. And stuff.

    I'd still much prefer to use a Honda S2000 engine/trans or even something more wild like an RX7 turbo wankel setup to a 2.3. But, meh.



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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Quote Originally Posted by cougarshaman View Post
    Are you trying to say he's been teabagged by Mick?


    I agree with what you're saying here. So far it's not so far out there. And stuff.

    I'd still much prefer to use a Honda S2000 engine/trans or even something more wild like an RX7 turbo wankel setup to a 2.3. But, meh.
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    well played, sir. Well played.




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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    I agree DesertDawg. And Andy, you should be ashamed. It's one thing to be a Honda motorcycle lover, but to suggest putting an import 4 into classic AMERICAN muscle? That's blasphemy. I may just have to tattle to Blizz and Dan and George, maybe even Bruce and Tim.
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Awwww, c'mon.... give Andy a break! He's busy looking for 'possum-fixin' recipes for a different thread.
    Besides which, he's still smarting a little from being told he was the second-most famous "Andy" in his town..... behind one that's cuter (even if older) and she spells her name differently.

    Oh, and DON"T tell Blizz or Roo.
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    It is true, us hill folk think outside the box, but thats just outside the whole alley. He probably hasn't chimed in for the last few hours cause just after dark is the best possum huntin' time.

    I forgot about Roo, but you may be right about Blizz, he would ban him for life.
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    I gotta learn to sip my brew BEFORE I open some of these posts! Baawaahh - LOL, snort (beer up snoz)

    I don't think the 2.3 is the worst idea - I had an 86 SVO 'Stang with that mill. -- Pretty fun. Agreeably the fox body to cat conversion would take the efforts of quite ambitious car guy - with some pretty good skills to boot. Really any modern motor for that matter. Plenty of 5.0 and a few 4.6's done to show that. Since the level of fab would require that much input, I gotta think you would be much happier with a more modern mill no? That many horsies out of an old 4 banger design doesn't sound ultimately reliable IMO. Cool in theory no doubt, fun as hell I bet! I wish I had a video of the rear engine dragster running low 10's with a 6 cyl years ago to show you guys! It was the coolest thing on the track I thought. (sounded like one PO'd bumble bee) but I think that was it's niche for it's time. A good crate motor would net you so much more in payback if you wanted to go to the trouble to fab the fit IMHO, and I think you could have an easier time with most other aspects and off the shelf parts that way. Maybe not the "different" factor you were looking for, but Iguess it depends on what you are going for in the end.
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Oh just buy that diesel Cougar in Cali... http://jalopnik.com/395755/1967-merc...ld-run-on-lard
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar_is_Grr8 View Post
    Oh just buy that diesel Cougar in Cali... http://jalopnik.com/395755/1967-merc...ld-run-on-lard
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Quote Originally Posted by CougarCJ View Post
    Ford put 2.3 Turbos in the mid 1980's Cougars and Thunderbirds.

    I, myself, have never considered that swap, nor would I contemplate the conversion.

    In the last 25 years there must be a better, engine manufactured than the 2.3T to achieve your goal of economy.
    Why not a Super Coupe engine? Has anyone tried that install?

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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    i think the fun factor would increase with a blown sc six.
    like i said,, 20 years later i would have went with a 3.0-4.0 turboed six.
    but i already have the spare parts from a previous turbo 4 project.
    it would be much better at producing tq/hp and i think i could get just about the same as the 4 in gas mileage
    (with a heavy car).
    but in no way would i consider the 4 or the 6 unless it had a blower or a turbo on it.
    it would be a slug.

    sure, there are better motors that could be used like the multi valve 4's and 6's.
    i would rather try one of those if i had the money.
    rest assured that the little svo lima engine will haul my cougar just about as well as the 351/2v that was in it.
    40 years ago , if some one would have suggest this to me i would have said no way, but with the efi stuff out there and the way that it has improved fuel efficancy and power it has become attractive to put a smaller engine in a car.

    i have to ask every one this question.
    if the stock 351/2v hp/tq was measured on a dyno for rwhp instead of crank hp what would it be rated at?.
    my stock lima 2.3 turbo is rated at 190 rwhp, what would it be at the crank?.
    just wondering about that. how close would my 351/2v be to the turboed 2.3 if they were both measured for rwhp.
    any way, it should be fun.
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    Re: 2.3 Turbo in a 67-68 Cougar?

    Some good info here on engines to start with, EFI computers to use, mods to make, etc.

    I had a '85-1/2 Turbo Coupe. The water-cooled turbo bearing was an added mid-85 feature. It did OK for a 4-banger, but nothing like a stock '88-up EFI 5.0. The Turbo-four pushed my 5-spd TurboCoupe to 16-second-flat ETs. About on par with a 5.0L automatic of the same vintage. The 5-spd 5.0s were quicker. Remember, horsepower rating is only one part of the story - the RPMs required to achieve that rating are often found in non-streetable areas, so it is TORQUE that is what gives seat-of-the-pants acceleration. The turbo four falls short in this area, which is why they had very low gearing in the 5-spds, and were geared with 3.45s in the 7.5" rear - 3.55s in 87-88 8.8" rears.

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