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    Electric power steering

    I don't know if anyone has posted this..but I saw it on Gears. Even though it is really pricey..it would sure be NICE!
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    Re: Electric power steering

    Sure is pricey! I was surprised to find a year or two ago when a coworker asked me for advice on his Chevy HHR that it had electric PS. First time I ran across such a thing. On my advice he bought and replaced the motor and saved himself a bunch over going to the dealer.

    With the lead time, sounds like they are built to order.
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    Re: Electric power steering

    I believe many new cars have this, including the Mustang..I could be wrong. It is made up of OEM components, so replacement parts could be gotten locally.
    Here's another possibility..its a universal unit that would require adapting to the column and box. Its rated at 4500lbs. for $1000
    http://www.wickedbilt.com/electra-st...tra-steer.html
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    Re: Electric power steering

    that's awesome! You could lose the PS pump for starters.....and the clearance for headers has to be better too. Wonder how many amps it pulls? Losing some dead weight makes that a very attractive alternative - less the wallet hurting of course. Gota pay if ya wanna play......
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    Re: Electric power steering

    I'm going to revive this thread. Yesterday I went to pull-a-part and got an electric power assist steering unit (EPAS) for $70 from a 2004 Saturn Vue. This is one of several GM based cars using this particular Koyo steering system. I found out about this on VMF forums, seems they and one of the Falcon forums have been doing this conversion for 2 years! There is a guy named Bruno from Portugal who makes a rheostat type controller for this unit that you can buy on Ebay for $65. Combined with a couple of shaft couplers and a little labor you have EPAS for less than $200. Apparently the 65-66 Mustangs and Falcons are the hardest due to space limitations, but the 67-68's get better and even more so with the 69-70. So, I'm going to do it. Here's a link to the Mustang thread. http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/mo...-ever-eps.html

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    Re: Electric power steering

    Keep us posted on the details!

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    Yeah! Those are pretty interesting. I know the newer Mustangs have electric steering in them and I have wondered what it would take to adapt it..? I am assuming that's a DC motor and is probably pretty hungry amp wise? I would be curious to see how you end up feeding it.....

    Does anybody know what the over ride feature is if the engine dies? I assume it just becaones real difficult to steer> Something to consider I guess......
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    Re: Electric power steering

    Quote Originally Posted by Bad69cat View Post
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    Does anybody know what the over ride feature is if the engine dies? I assume it just becaones real difficult to steer> Something to consider I guess......
    If the engine dies there is still battery power so I am assuming the steering effort does not change.

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    Here is the eBay controller.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saturn-Vue-I...lRcSCy&vxp=mtr

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    Re: Electric power steering

    I know some Cobra Roadster guys that were putting in electric steering. Not sure the type or brand, but I think it was completely aftermarket. Their complaint was that it was loud and you could hear it. Probably not the case for a factory system. If engine/power dies, it was pretty much similar to manual steering, may a little harder, but that was for whatever system they were using. It was also adjustable as far as how much assist, but that was necessary for roadsters that are around 2,500 pounds.
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    Re: Electric power steering

    If the engine dies, as long as the battery is good it will act normally. It does pull about 50amps max loaded at slow speeds, assuming that you have the assist turned to the max. Most guys report they barely turn them up from no boost and it feels just fine. At low levels only pulls about 10amps. Feed is a #8 wire with a 60amp fuse. If the motor or battery fails then is just like regular manual steering. I fabricated the lower column tube and attaching bracket yesterday. Some aren't even using the lower column just naked shaft, it's just for cover-up. Most have to use at least one ujoint some two, but the 69-70 goes straight into the rag joint.



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    WOW - 60 amps! OOFTA...... you gonna have to have some type of relay to put that much juice in and upgrade to a better alt aren't you? I think I would run that #8 from a relay that get it's feed from the battery and is switched from a ignition source somehow. I figured they would be hungry - but maybe not that much. Even 10 amps continuous isn't chicken feed..... Looks like a pretty straight forward install though? Curious to see how you end up with it.
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    Re: Electric power steering

    I has a relay built in just needs fuse. It's relayed thru the key on hot. An alt and battery upgrade would be wise. I will be using the Explorer alt I think its 130amp.

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    Re: Electric power steering

    Does anyone know what sort of signal the eBay control box sends to the steering box? Is it voltage? PWM? Change in resistance? Something else?

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    Re: Electric power steering

    I am glad someone woke this thread up again. I have been looking at power steering options for years. I like this idea. Found several videos on YouTube for mustang and kit car people showing how they did it. If I find a really good one I will post the link.
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