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: VIN number location



SingleMalt
May 24th, 2010, 01:19 PM
I have a 69' XR7. The VIN is currently hidden by a cracked dash pad. I got the numbers of the driver's side door plate. However, things are not mathing up. First, the car has been clearly repainted. So, the paint is so thick in the plate, I can't read all the numbers. One number however I can read is the transmission code. The plate says it is an automatic. It has a 4 speed manual. Among some other discpencies are interior color. So, is there another place to get this correct information? I still have to file for the lost title and I want to be sure before I apply.

jcbingcougar
May 24th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Check the top of the driver's side inner fender apron. You'll find the VIN stamped there.

badcatt
May 24th, 2010, 01:44 PM
If you Cougar was built at the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.mercurycougar.net/forums/ /><st1:place w:st=<st1:City w:st="on">Dearborn</st1:City></st1:place> plant (9F) it should have a body buck tag held to the radiator core support usually just above the passengers side head light were the front of the fender is bolted in. <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">San Jose</st1:place></st1:City> (9R) built cars do not have this tag
The 9F/9R is the first 2 numbers of the VIN. There is also a VIN stamped to the top of the shock towers hidden by the fender flange. Out side of that pulling the dash or either front fender is about the only way to get the VIN that I know.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p>
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Often body shops as well as home body repairs when changing doors from the parts recycler would not remove the door data plate and install the correct one. That may explain the door tag not showing a 4 speed. But some one may have changed it to the 4 speed.<o:p></o:p>

7Eliminators
May 24th, 2010, 01:51 PM
The only sure fire way is to:
1) Remove the dashpad and get that vin.
2) Loosen or remove either front fender and get the vin off the shock tower, and it should match the dash vin, minus a couple of characters.
Generally, when filing for a lost title, the vehicle will need to be inspected by your local DMV and they will need to do 1 and 2 anyway.
3) Being that you don't know the vin, the door tag is not to be trusted yet as the door can be replaced and it could be a different tag on the door.

SingleMalt
May 24th, 2010, 03:16 PM
So, with JUST the VIN, can the orignal color codes and transmission information be decifered from someone in the know?

68PUMA
May 24th, 2010, 03:25 PM
So, with JUST the VIN, can the orignal color codes and transmission information be decifered from someone in the know?
No, the VIN would tell you what year, assembly plant, model, engine & production number of the car.

70B302Cat
May 24th, 2010, 03:47 PM
So, with JUST the VIN, can the orignal color codes and transmission information be decifered from someone in the know?

But with just the Vin you can contact Kevin Marti at http://www.martiauto.com/ and for a fee, he can tell you lots of information, if it is not already in the CCOA database.

Jan Ove
May 24th, 2010, 03:49 PM
So, with JUST the VIN, can the orignal color codes and transmission information be decifered from someone in the know?


No and yes, the VIN will no get deciphered to reveal color, transmission and such, only year, bodystyle and engine.
But however, you can get a Marti report using only the VIN, and by that you get the door tag info, you can also get a new door tag from Kevin Marti,

http://www.martiauto.com/

Jan Ove
May 24th, 2010, 03:50 PM
Hmm great minds think alike Dave ;)

SingleMalt
May 24th, 2010, 04:41 PM
Dash came out. And, to my disbelief, the VINs match on the dash match the the one on the door. Which means, someone before me took the painstaking time to put a manual transmission instead of the factory automatic. And the interior was completely redone. Of course, after 15 years of sitting, it needs to be redone again.

I surrender...

badcatt
May 24th, 2010, 07:43 PM
Dash came out. And, to my disbelief, the VINs match on the dash match the the one on the door. Which means, someone before me took the painstaking time to put a manual transmission instead of the factory automatic. And the interior was completely redone. Of course, after 15 years of sitting, it needs to be redone again.

I surrender...

Never surrender! I had a 69 that had a 4 speed in it, the door tag matched the Cougar VIN I found on the trans but was not from that Cougar. Both were M code 351 4V Cougars but the trans was from a Standard and the body was an XR-7.
To me it sounds like you have a good starting place for a good restomod Cougar.
Good luck.